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Schweini_rules wrote:

podolski4life wrote:Damn. This is a joke. Milan doesn't deserve to win the CL. They weren't even supposed to be in the CL in the first place. I hope those match-fixing scandals come back to bite them in the places where the sun don't shine. Argh.

you must be joking, deserved or not. We are bayern fans but lets be realistic. They won the match in Munich and they won the best team of Cl this season, Man U, so yeah i say they deserved their trophy and no questions about it.

It was luck, combined with a recent "revaloration" of Milan.

In the grupo stage of the CL, Milan received the easiest gruop, still they played ver bad those matches, they won the gropu because their quality was so much better than the rest of the teams.

And against Celtic, they didnt deserve to advance. There was a clearly intentional hand of Maldini in the Milan area, wich was a clear penalty . Penalty which could have given Celtic the lead in the eliminatory.

It was not until the second match against us in Allianz Arena, that they started to play well.

I agree they had some problems with Celtic, but Kaka killed it at the end. and on the group stages they were already quailfied and lost the last games, what's the problem with that? They didn't play that bad. For the people who say that they were lucky and didn't deserve to win, you are just a Milan hater, and you don't see the game as a neutral fan. I wouldn't mind at all if Liverpool won, but this time I wanted Milan to win it.

and check Milan's record for the last five years

2003 - final (won)
2004 - quarter finals
2005 - final (lost)
2006 - simi finals
2007 - final (won)

compare this with Liverpool's record (and it's not that I hate Liverpool but the record speaks for itself)

FC Bajern wrote:I agree they had some problems with Celtic, but Kaka killed it at the end. and on the group stages they were already quailfied and lost the last games, what's the problem with that? They didn't play that bad. For the people who say that they were lucky and didn't deserve to win, you are just a Milan hater, and you don't see the game as a neutral fan. I wouldn't mind at all if Liverpool won, but this time I wanted Milan to win it.

and check Milan's record for the last five years

2003 - final (won)
2004 - quarter finals
2005 - final (lost)
2006 - simi finals
2007 - final (won)

compare this with Liverpool's record (and it's not that I hate Liverpool but the record speaks for itself)

Im not a Milan hater, im just a Bayern fan talking about milan.

And I know im not neutral. I cant be neutral. And i think you aren neither. Stating that you wanted Milan to win it, its the same as me saying that i didnt want them to win it.


I just stated that they got an easy group and that helped a lot. Since the Milan of the beginning of the season its nothing compared to the Milan who won the CL.

Something similar happened to Lyon but the other way around, at the beginning they were a machine of winning games, and at the end they struggled in CL and even in the french league.

Schweini_rules wrote:

podolski4life wrote:Damn. This is a joke. Milan doesn't deserve to win the CL. They weren't even supposed to be in the CL in the first place. I hope those match-fixing scandals come back to bite them in the places where the sun don't shine. Argh.

you must be joking, deserved or not. We are bayern fans but lets be realistic. They won the match in Munich and they won the best team of Cl this season, Man U, so yeah i say they deserved their trophy and no questions about it.

Maybe I should have worded it better. What I meant was that Milan didn't deserve to play in the CL. If you illegally had help winning games the season before, you shouldn't have been allowed to play.

podolski4life wrote:

Schweini_rules wrote:

podolski4life wrote:Damn. This is a joke. Milan doesn't deserve to win the CL. They weren't even supposed to be in the CL in the first place. I hope those match-fixing scandals come back to bite them in the places where the sun don't shine. Argh.

you must be joking, deserved or not. We are bayern fans but lets be realistic. They won the match in Munich and they won the best team of Cl this season, Man U, so yeah i say they deserved their trophy and no questions about it.

Maybe I should have worded it better. What I meant was that Milan didn't deserve to play in the CL. If you illegally had help winning games the season before, you shouldn't have been allowed to play.

i do agree with you here , yes that was not fair.

BUT


Again they deserved to win against us , because they played ball in Munich and we didnt or we couldnt? They scored twice when we didnt. Those goals wernt lucky ...they were magic and that is the truth. They were better than us..i say we were lucky in San Siro to score the second goal ...with Kaka , they are just fantastic.

now look Milan's record above, in the CL they were and are definitely a better team than us the very last years no doubt about that as the numbers clearly show us that..

Champions League (qual.)
FT Toulouse 0 - 1 Liverpool
FT Spartak Moscow 1 - 1 Celtic
FT Tampere United 0 - 3 Rosenborg
FT BATE Borisov 2 - 2 Steaua Bucuresti
FT Fenerbahce 1 - 0 Anderlecht
FT FK Sarajevo 0 - 1 Dynamo Kyiv
FT Zurich 1 - 1 Besiktas
FT Ajax Amsterdam 0 - 1 Slavia Prague LOL
FT SV Salzburg 1 - 0 Shakhtar Donetsk
FT Werder Bremen 2 - 1 Dinamo Zagreb
FT Sevilla 2 - 0 AEK Athens
FT Sparta Prague 0 - 2 Arsenal
FT Lazio 1 - 1 Dinamo Bucuresti
FT Rangers 1 - 0 Red Star Belgrade
FT Benfica 2 - 1 FC Copenhagen
FT Valencia 3 - 0 Elfsborg

The big clubs won! no surprises

Ajax is not considered a team anymore. To lose in their own stadium to Slavia Prague, haha

It`s normal!! you know.. Ajax is a club who`s depend on its own academy players. so, sometimes you don`t have a good generation

Marseille 2-0 Beşiktaş

Porto 1-1 Liverpool

Chelsea 1-1 Rosenborg

Schalke 0-1 Valencia

Real Madrid 2-1 Bremen

Olympiacos 1-1 Lazio

Milan 2-1 Benfica

Shakhtar 2-0 Celtic

Rangers 2-1 Stuttgart

Barcelona 3-0 Lyon

Roma 2-0 Dynamo Kyiv

Sporting 0-1 Man. United

PSV 2-1 CSKA Moskva

Fenerbahçe 1-0 Internazionale

Arsenal 3-0 Sevilla

Slavia 2-1 Steaua

-Lyon 0-3 Rangers

-Stuttgart 0-2 Barcelona (what a shame)

-Man. United 1-0 Roma

-Dynamo Kyiv 1-2 Sporting

-CSKA Moskva 2-2 Fenerbahçe

-Internazionale 2-0 PSV

-Steaua 0-1 Arsenal

-Sevilla 4-2 Slavia

Liverpool 0-1 Marseille

Beşiktaş 0-1 Porto

Valencia 1-2 Chelsea

Rosenborg 0-2 Schalke

Lazio 2-2 Real Madrid

Bremen 1-3 Olympiacos

Celtic 2-1 Milan

Benfica 0-1 Shakhtar

Stuttgart 0-2 Lyon

Rangers 0-0 Barcelona

Dynamo Kyiv 2-4 Man. United

Roma 2-1 Sporting

CSKA Moskva 1-2 Internazionale

PSV 0-0 Fenerbahçe

Sevilla 2-1 Steaua

Arsenal 7-0 Slavia